Dev Outstanding v4 Issues

This is intended as a quick-and-dirty listing of all issues with v4. It
is intended to serve as a reference point, with collected questions and
answers to cut down on the repeat posting in the various forums, and
allow nik and teo time to answer all questions in an orderly fashion.

General Questions

Chances are, these have been asked more than once.

Unanswered

All questions in this area have been answered.

Answered, Unresolved

  • New edits need to be differentiated from new submissions.
    • Ok, so we need 'Edit Needs Vote' as well as just 'Needs Vote' on
      the submission pages - that makes sense
      Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Can we get individual permalinks in the submission history, instead
    of default "latest"? This way, we could actually share links to
    particular comments that we question or discuss.
    • Added to disbugs.Simfonik 2:48, 3
      April 2008 (PDT)
  • v4 Updates - any ETA
    for their completion? And are they impacting the stability of the
    site?
    • We anticipate having all documented v4 bugs resolved within the
      next 2 weeks. The ability to access the site is not impacted by
      these "in progress" updates.Simfonik
      3:08, 3 April 2008 (PDT)
  • There has been poor communication between management and site users
    for quite some time now, particularly regarding the introduction of
    major new versions of discogs. The way that v3 and v4 were
    introduced was perceived as a slap in the face by many long-time
    active contributors and moderators, and has resulted in many users
    leaving the site. What is management planning to do to improve
    communication, openness and responsiveness?
    • We will be making some phased changes to the disbugs system, the
      first of which will include setting time lines for planned
      changes so that users can have a clearer picture of what's in
      the pipeline and when it will be completed. We are also looking
      at ways to better integrate disbugs with our back end systems
      which should allow us to provide a quicker response time to bug
      reports and feature
      requests.Simfonik 3:27, 3 April 2008
      (PDT)

Resolved

  • Will the Discogs front page be updated?
    • As of 17 March 2008 or so, the front page shows newly submitted
      releases, with no relation to their vote status (most, if not
      all, Need Votes).
  • My
    Contributions
    -
    will they ever list our new submissions, or is this just a minor
    glitch?
    • This is fixed now.Nik 10:07, 13 March
      2008 (PDT)
  • Can we see who voted
    what
    , or
    is that considered a liability? Could voters see votes cast by
    others, especially if someone thought their own vote was a mistake?
    • This is fixed now.Simfonik 2:48, 3
      April 2008 (PDT)
  • My Discogs has two broken sections:
    submissions
    (which links to
    discogs.com/pending) is an empty
    page in v4, and empty favorites
    (from v3, if not earlier).
    • This is (relevant to v4) fixed now. No longer links to /pending.
      Second part of bug report was pre-existing and is pending
      resolution.Simfonik 2:55, 3 April
      2008 (PDT)
  • When editing submissions, you do not see any of the release history
    or past discussions, which makes it really hard to answer those
    questions raised in the past, and new users who get guidance from
    "voters" don't have our words to follow. Will there be some History
    view when editing?
    • This is fixed now (need to confirm that all pre-v4 history has
      finished loading).Simfonik 2:55, 3
      April 2008 (PDT)

Bugs in Release Display

Unanswered

All unanswered questions in this area have been addressed.

Answered, Unresolved

  • Even though a label was created with an as-of-yet voted upon
    release, any following submissions to the unvoted label do NOT get
    flagged for being on an unverified label (perhaps this needs a new
    definition than simply "This creates a new label")
    • Kevin is aware of this and will look at it.
      Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Items that were awaiting moderation in v3 have lost their
    discussions.
  • Recent updates do not display a Before release, only the After.
    • These are both getting looked into and history's transfered
      across. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Resolved

  • Artists and labels no longer display
    history
    for
    anything beyond direct edits for the artist / label profile, where
    we could see every submission and edit to an artist or label page in
    the artist / label history in v3.
    • This is a function of the new display. There should be a way to
      display the artist / labels add / update release history with
      the new submission browsing interface.
      Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

Bugs in Voting

Unanswered

  • Can we get some
    feedback on what the
    actual voting options mean? Or maybe a revised voting display? It is
    unclear when 'Entirely Incorrect' votes would roll back an edit, or
    when they would move a submission back into Draft status --
    re-posted by Deejsasqui at 10:30, 27
    March 2008 (PDT), editing post from Gecks
    03:42, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

Answered, Unresolved

  • Users receive notifications of updates they've done themselves,
    which is generally useless (unless you want to keep track of what
    you did while not in your right mind =)
    • This is part of the notification review and will be taken into
      account. Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Once a label page has been created by a
    submission
    ,
    the New Label Warning is no longer presented to submitters using the
    same label page.
    • No that's not correct, the warning should be there for the label
      until it has one or more 'correct' releases in it, and the user
      editing their own submission should not be validating the page.
      Kevin is looking into this Nik 04:25, 22
      March 2008 (PDT)
  • Votes and comments on submissions aren't resulting in notifications.
    • Kevin is aware about this and will get this working again, if it
      isn't already. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008
      (PDT)
  • It appears that submissions from users who are banned or blocked
    from submitting are not removed from the public view with 'Entirely
    Incorrect' votes as they should be.
    • Are there any links to this occurence? thanks -
      Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • There is no way to really differentiate edits from releases as a
    whole. (Mod/voter forum
    link
    )
    • The linked post seems to want a delete release function, not a
      voting function. If one thinks a release itself is entirely
      incorrect, thenit would make sense to delete the release rather
      than vote. A delete release function is on the cards.
      Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Submitters can remove submission notes (Mod/voter forum
    link
    ), which
    were once a good way of keeping people truthful.
    • AFAICS this is a sugestion that submission notes should be
      removed, not a report of them being able to be removed.

Resolved

  • Are we not allowed to edit then
    vote
    ? That
    was a useful feature in v3.
    • No, it has to be linear, so please make a vote on what the
      submission quality was like, then do an edit. This will help in
      grading submitters. Nik 10:07, 13 March
      2008 (PDT)

Missing Features

Unanswered

  • Are comments / replies tracked alongside updates, or are they
    ignored? It would be nice to have a new (My Comments) feature, like
    we had before, next to "All" and each genre.
  • Are pics updates
    tracked
    in
    "Updates to my Contributions" / "Updates to items in My Collection"?
    They need to be tracked in the history, even if they can't be
    manipulated there. Otherwise, we can't easily see when a picture was
    added that might have lead to incorrect updates.
  • Voting statistic. how many votes has a moderator cast?
  • Updates to My Contributions should include the option to track
    every contribution including image additions, submission edits,
    artist and label profile edits etc.

Answered, Unresolved

  • Temporarily auto-ban users from submitting who receive more than
    3 (?) "entirely incorrect" votes on different releases. temporarily
    auto-ban users from submitting who receive more than 5 (?) "needs
    major changes" unless the number decreases.
    • This is planned
  • A user cannot cancel his or her own submission, and there is no real
    remedy for an incorrectly cast Correct vote (Mod/voter forum
    link
    ).
    • There will be merge and delete release functions, and a delete
      button for users new submissions.
  • There is no
    "queue"
    or
    unvoted / recently added activity list for artists, labels or users.
    Until there is, voters must vote on releases one at a time.
  • Recent changes to favorites, my collection, my friends' collection
    (generally, the old My Discogs layout was quite useful)
  • Accurate Submissions list - currently, we cannot browse
    submissions of our own or anyone else's
    • This should be added in with the Submissions browsing interface
      I believe. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Moderator-style submission browsing. We need something like the
    old queue, listing all submissions marked as needing a vote. This
    has to be provided with an option to switch genres, so that
    specialists can browse and vote/fix subs from the musical horizon
    that is familiar to them. This is a really crucial feature, without
    which ex-mods or "voters" can't really take up their job on a
    systematic scale.
    • This will be available with the Submissions browsing interface,
      which is currently in progress Nik 10:08,
      13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • There has to be moderator-style browsing for non-voters too, in
    combination with a my comments option. Otherwise there is no way
    to contribute anything useful, even without voting rights.
    Marcelrecords 17 March 2008
  • Pop up window in the submission preview to show artist / labels with
    similar names
    • This needs to be added back to the new interface.
      Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Resolved

  • A more prominent mark of unmoderated releases on the release
    page itself. I.e. a bright red banner on the top of the page.
    • This has been changed now.
    • It wouldn't hurt to have different colors for "Needs Votes,"
      "Needs Revision" and "Draft"
  • Draft releases are now highlighted in yellow instead of the
    previous red, why is that?
    • It's just the way the new system works, we can review all these
      different flags for draft / needs changes etc in a while once
      the more urgent things have been resolved.
      Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)