Dev Outstanding v4 Issues

This is intended as a quick-and-dirty listing of all issues with v4. It is intended to serve as a reference point, with collected questions and answers to cut down on the repeat posting in the various forums, and allow nik and teo time to answer all questions in an orderly fashion.

General Questions

Chances are, these have been asked more than once.

Unanswered

All questions in this area have been answered.

Answered, Unresolved

  • New edits need to be differentiated from new submissions.
    • Ok, so we need 'Edit Needs Vote' as well as just 'Needs Vote' on the submission pages - that makes sense Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Were any Submission form checks added to v4? Will we get more?
    • There weren't any sub form checks added during this update, but we are planning to add them ASAP, youi can see the page at - I have been adding more as they came to mind, and I think the artist / label check would be really good - I have discussed this with Kevin and it seems doable. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Can we get individual permalinks in the submission history, instead of default "latest"? This way, we could actually share links to particular comments that we question or discuss.
    • Added to disbugs.Simfonik 2:48, 3 April 2008 (PDT)
  • v4 Updates - any ETA for their completion? And are they impacting the stability of the site?
    • We anticipate having all documented v4 bugs resolved within the next 2 weeks. The ability to access the site is not impacted by these "in progress" updates.Simfonik 3:08, 3 April 2008 (PDT)
  • There has been poor communication between management and site users for quite some time now, particularly regarding the introduction of major new versions of discogs. The way that v3 and v4 were introduced was perceived as a slap in the face by many long-time active contributors and moderators, and has resulted in many users leaving the site. What is management planning to do to improve communication, openness and responsiveness?
    • We will be making some phased changes to the disbugs system, the first of which will include setting time lines for planned changes so that users can have a clearer picture of what's in the pipeline and when it will be completed. We are also looking at ways to better integrate disbugs with our back end systems which should allow us to provide a quicker response time to bug reports and feature requests.Simfonik 3:27, 3 April 2008 (PDT)

Resolved

  • Will the Discogs front page be updated?
    • As of 17 March 2008 or so, the front page shows newly submitted releases, with no relation to their vote status (most, if not all, Need Votes).
  • My Contributions - will they ever list our new submissions, or is this just a minor glitch?
    • This is fixed now.Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Can we see who voted what, or is that considered a liability? Could voters see votes cast by others, especially if someone thought their own vote was a mistake?
    • This is fixed now.Simfonik 2:48, 3 April 2008 (PDT)
  • My Discogs has two broken sections: submissions (which links to discogs.com/pending) is an empty page in v4, and empty favorites (from v3, if not earlier).
    • This is (relevant to v4) fixed now. No longer links to /pending. Second part of bug report was pre-existing and is pending resolution.Simfonik 2:55, 3 April 2008 (PDT)
  • When editing submissions, you do not see any of the release history or past discussions, which makes it really hard to answer those questions raised in the past, and new users who get guidance from "voters" don't have our words to follow. Will there be some History view when editing?
    • This is fixed now (need to confirm that all pre-v4 history has finished loading).Simfonik 2:55, 3 April 2008 (PDT)

Bugs in Release Display

Unanswered

All unanswered questions in this area have been addressed.

Answered, Unresolved

  • Even though a label was created with an as-of-yet voted upon release, any following submissions to the unvoted label do NOT get flagged for being on an unverified label (perhaps this needs a new definition than simply "This creates a new label")
    • Kevin is aware of this and will look at it. Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Items that were awaiting moderation in v3 have lost their discussions.
  • Recent updates do not display a Before release, only the After.
    • These are both getting looked into and history's transfered across. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Resolved

  • You get glitches when trying to clear label prior to renaming all releases (as a work-around for not being able to rename labels). Leaving the label name blank creates an error, and the label cannot be edited if there are no releases on the label (example: Britney Spears (White), which has been replaced with Not On Label (Britney Spears Bootlegs)).
    • this was fixed previously Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Artists and labels no longer display history for anything beyond direct edits for the artist / label profile, where we could see every submission and edit to an artist or label page in the artist / label history in v3.
    • This is a function of the new display. There should be a way to display the artist / labels add / update release history with the new submission browsing interface. Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)

Bugs in Voting

Unanswered

  • Can we get some feedback on what the actual voting options mean? Or maybe a revised voting display? It is unclear when 'Entirely Incorrect' votes would roll back an edit, or when they would move a submission back into Draft status -- re-posted by Deejsasqui at 10:30, 27 March 2008 (PDT), editing post from Gecks 03:42, 27 March 2008 (PDT)

Answered, Unresolved

  • Users receive notifications of updates they've done themselves, which is generally useless (unless you want to keep track of what you did while not in your right mind =)
    • This is part of the notification review and will be taken into account. Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Once a label page has been created by a submission, the New Label Warning is no longer presented to submitters using the same label page.
    • No that's not correct, the warning should be there for the label until it has one or more 'correct' releases in it, and the user editing their own submission should not be validating the page. Kevin is looking into this Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Votes and comments on submissions aren't resulting in notifications.
    • Kevin is aware about this and will get this working again, if it isn't already. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • It appears that submissions from users who are banned or blocked from submitting are not removed from the public view with 'Entirely Incorrect' votes as they should be.
    • Are there any links to this occurence? thanks - Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • There is no way to really differentiate edits from releases as a whole. (Mod/voter forum link)
    • The linked post seems to want a delete release function, not a voting function. If one thinks a release itself is entirely incorrect, thenit would make sense to delete the release rather than vote. A delete release function is on the cards. Nik 04:25, 22 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Submitters can remove submission notes (Mod/voter forum link), which were once a good way of keeping people truthful.
    • AFAICS this is a sugestion that submission notes should be removed, not a report of them being able to be removed.

Resolved

  • Are we not allowed to edit then vote? That was a useful feature in v3.
    • No, it has to be linear, so please make a vote on what the submission quality was like, then do an edit. This will help in grading submitters. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Missing Features

Unanswered

  • Are comments / replies tracked alongside updates, or are they ignored? It would be nice to have a new (My Comments) feature, like we had before, next to "All" and each genre.
  • Are pics updates tracked in "Updates to my Contributions" / "Updates to items in My Collection"? They need to be tracked in the history, even if they can't be manipulated there. Otherwise, we can't easily see when a picture was added that might have lead to incorrect updates.
  • Voting statistic. how many votes has a moderator cast?
  • Updates to My Contributions should include the option to track every contribution including image additions, submission edits, artist and label profile edits etc.

Answered, Unresolved

  • Temporarily auto-ban users from submitting who receive more than 3 (?) "entirely incorrect" votes on different releases. temporarily auto-ban users from submitting who receive more than 5 (?) "needs major changes" unless the number decreases.
    • This is planned
  • A user cannot cancel his or her own submission, and there is no real remedy for an incorrectly cast Correct vote (Mod/voter forum link).
    • There will be merge and delete release functions, and a delete button for users new submissions.
  • There is no "queue" or unvoted / recently added activity list for artists, labels or users. Until there is, voters must vote on releases one at a time.
  • Recent changes to favorites, my collection, my friends' collection (generally, the old My Discogs layout was quite useful)
    • This is part of the ongoing update
  • Accurate Submissions list - currently, we cannot browse submissions of our own or anyone else's
    • This should be added in with the Submissions browsing interface I believe. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Moderator-style submission browsing. We need something like the old queue, listing all submissions marked as needing a vote. This has to be provided with an option to switch genres, so that specialists can browse and vote/fix subs from the musical horizon that is familiar to them. This is a really crucial feature, without which ex-mods or "voters" can't really take up their job on a systematic scale.
    • This will be available with the Submissions browsing interface, which is currently in progress Nik 10:08, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • There has to be moderator-style browsing for non-voters too, in combination with a my comments option. Otherwise there is no way to contribute anything useful, even without voting rights. Marcelrecords 17 March 2008
  • Rank points are missing, in addition the contributer list is Contributors page a frozen image of the past.
    • Being discussed at Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • Pop up window in the submission preview to show artist / labels with similar names
    • This needs to be added back to the new interface. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)

Resolved

  • A more prominent mark of unmoderated releases on the release page itself. I.e. a bright red banner on the top of the page.
    • This has been changed now.
    • It wouldn't hurt to have different colors for "Needs Votes," "Needs Revision" and "Draft"
  • Draft releases are now highlighted in yellow instead of the previous red, why is that?
    • It's just the way the new system works, we can review all these different flags for draft / needs changes etc in a while once the more urgent things have been resolved. Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)
  • email notification about changes to my contributions / my submissions
    • This is fixed now Nik 10:07, 13 March 2008 (PDT)