Dev LabelCompany Proposal Sep 2007

NOTE - THIS IS NOT A FINALISED OR OFFICIAL PLAN, AND IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE!

Label update

The current label pages will be updated to a more generic www.discogs.com/list-releases/LabelCompanyName page. Existing label pages will forward to the new pages.

New Label / Company section

The current label / cat# section will be overhauled so we can enter more information than previously. The initial form will have these fields (or similar - layout to be finalised):

"Label Role Dropdown" : "LabelCompany Name free text"

"Cat# Dropdown" : "Cat# free text" : "Add another cat# button"

"Add another label / company button"

A system maxtix (as used for formats) will bring up other fields as needed, for example (for publishers):

"Label Role Dropdown" : "LabelCompany Name free text"

"Cat# Dropdown" : "Cat# free text" : "Add another cat# button"

Track Positions : "Track position free text field"

"Add another label / company button"

Labels set to "Worldwide / Undefined" country fields on their pages would bring up a country field on the form:

"Label Role Dropdown" : "LabelCompany Name free text"

"Cat# Dropdown" : "Cat# free text" : "Add another cat# button"

Country : "Country Dropdown"

"Add another label / company button

Label and Company drop down fields

Undefined Label / Company
Label
Record Company
Distributor
Manufacturer
License Holder
Publisher
Mechanical Rights Society
Studio
Pressing Plant
Printing Company
Mastering Studio
Other

Common company roles

Parameters

  • year
  • company name
  • territory

Examples

  • © 1989 Sire Records Company for the U.S. and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the U.S.
  • © 1998 Minus Inc.
  • © 2007

Parameters

  • year
  • company name
  • territory
  • tracks

Examples

  • ℗ 1989 Sire Records Company for the U.S. and WEA International Inc. for the world outside of the U.S.
  • ℗ 1998 Mute Records Ltd.
  • ℗ 1, 2, 4-10: 1995 / 3: 2000 Deutsche Grammophon GmbH
  • ℗ 1960
Distributed By, Made By, Manufactured By, Marketed By, Released By/Through, Record Company

Parameters

  • company name / brand name
  • territory
  • associated Cat#

Examples

  • Distributed by SPV GmbH - SPV 084-23782
  • Distributed by Rough Trade in Germany - 303.5237.2
  • Distributed by Southern
  • Made by Phonogram GmbH - 814 088-7
  • Made in Australia by Festival Records Pty Ltd. - RML 53260
  • Manufactured by Hot Productions, Inc. - HAL 12684
  • Manufactured by Deutsche Grammophon Gesellschaft - 22 144
  • Marketed by EMI
  • Marketed and distributed by Logic in Germany
  • Marketed and distributed in the UK by Universal Music Operations Ltd.
Licensee
Printed By
Publisher
Catalog number and other codes and numbers drop down fields

Catalog Number
Additional Catalog#
Barcode#
Matrix Number
BIEM
Label Code

The cat# dropdown menu could be tied in with the label and company menu, the same way that the format menus are tied together, so that selection is limited to correct matches (i.e. label code only is allowed for labels).

Rules

All information should be listed as on release.

Label and company names can sometimes have small changes (for example the dropping of the "Records" from "LabelName Records"). In such instances, the fullest name should be used, with previous releases in the database updated if needed. However, if a label or company has a more substantial name change, it must be entered as a separate label (connections between these types of labels can be developed later).

Required fields will have to be flexible. Some releases will contain no company or label information, others will contain full details. The submitter should provide at least enough information to distinguish it as a unique release. Unfortunately, this can vary a lot from release to release, and may not be apparent until after the release is accepted to the database (for example, when someone wishes to add another variation of the release).

Issues

Country field

Further to this thread from the editors forum Dev-LabelCompany-Proposal-Editor-Thread-Country, the country role needs revised. The country field is possably the most problematic. An argument can be made to move the country field to the label / company pages, but the division can sometimes be indistinct or indefinable (a label with offices in two or more countries?). The present country field represents where the release was released, but as Stormbringer has pointed out in the eds forum , a lot of the time this is guesswork or hearsay, rather than hard facts as represented on the release.

One possible solution is to move the country field to the label pages, including an "unspecified / worldwide" selection for the majors. Then, country may only be selected on the form, as long as the country on the label / company page is selected as "unspecified / worldwide". This way, or something like it, perhaps we can cater for both small and large labels in a reasonably easy, accurate, and intuitive way?

Could the country field be incorporated into the Catalog number and other codes and numbers drop down fields (question for Kevin)?

Updating the country field

If the country field was removed from it's present place, we could incorparate it into the new fields like this:

UpdateBot scans all labels releases for country field. Labels where all the country fields are the same get the country field moved to the label page. labels where the country field is different on some releases will be set to "Worldwide / Undefined" on the label page, and the country field will be added to the new per-label/company country field.

Updating to the new system

Updating should be reasonably simple, as this is just extending the current functionality. No special translation is needed apart from the country field.